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« on: 12/08/06 at 12:29 am »

Due to the recent discussions about airships, I started thinking of new ways to make the metal beasts a physical possibility in some semblance of their present form. I thought about making the atmosphere denser and did a bit of thinking on how to do so. Wait a minute, Iron Grip doesn't take place on Earth as we know it... So why not have it set on a completely different planet? EUREKA! And thus, Theia was born.


Theia is a medium sized rocky planet, orbiting a young type G2 star known as Solaria once every 392 days in the nebula of an ancient supernova. Theia orbits Solaria at an average distance of around 167 million kilometers, giving it a temperature range comparable to Earth, though very slightly cooler as a whole, with an average temperature of roughly 13ºC (although the minimums and maximums are distant from this middle point). The planet's axis slowly rotates the same direction the planet orbits Solaria, leading to a very long season cycle of roughly three years. The planet itself is dense and very rich in heavy metals, primarily iron, leftover from the supernova. The atmosphere is comprised of 48% nitrogen, 29% argon, 21% oxygen, and 2% other gases including water vapor and 0.07% carbon dioxide. The planet has a single major satellite, the moon Orpheus, though several smaller bodies orbit the planet in regular stable patterns. The planets' surface is initially similar to Earth, being covered in roughly 63% water (as opposed to Earth's 70-71%), with the land being a mixture of mountains, plains, deserts and forests, and some jungle regions in the tropics. Both poles are home to substantial icecaps which lock up most of the planets' fresh water.

The practical implications of these differences are numerous, and range in importance from trivial to critical.
   The biggest difference between Theia and the Earth is the atmosphere. Theia's atmosphere is much heavier than Earth's due to the high argon content, yet it is still completely compatible with the development of life, including human life. The biggest planetary change this heavier atmosphere implies is a slower and more stable weather pattern, with some areas having almost no weather changes at all. Therefore, some places are perennially sunny, while others are wracked by permanent storms. These stormy areas have recently been seen as a potentially limitless source of energy, and experimental storm powerplants are already operational. These sturdy facilities have large towers that reach high into the roiling black skies to harness the electricity and winds for the betterment of mankind.
   On a related note, the denser atmosphere has more friction when moving through itself, and wind generates much more static electricity than it does on Earth. As a result, lightning is extremely common, sometimes occurring even from blue skies in dry windy areas, and actual lightning storms can be incredibly intense. Forest fires on the planet are common, but due to their frequency, the forest floors in deciduous areas remain fairly clear of debris and scrub.
   This denser atmosphere also makes flight, in both lighter and heavier-than-air ways, more easily attained. Lighter-than-air craft can be significantly heavier per volume than an Earth-bound counterpart and still displace enough atmosphere to be buoyant, while aircraft can carry heavier loads with less wing area, though the density of the air has thus far prevented heavier-than-air craft from economically reaching long ranges and high speeds.
   The higher content of heavy metals has also shaped the planetary economy and iron, bauxite, copper, molybdenum, tungsten, lead and much more are all plentifully available. This abundance of metals has made development, both military and civilian, take off very quickly over the past hundred years as smelting and alloy-making processes have been invented.
   The night sky is a beautiful sight to behold all over the planet, with the cosmos being perennially illuminated with pale blues and reds from the nebula surrounding the solar system.
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« Reply #1 on: 12/08/06 at 02:47 am »

Sounds like a lovely planet to be oppressed on. Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: 12/08/06 at 04:17 am »

hehe always wondered what the planets name on. Now we should make a mod about futuristic airship space combat Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: 01/17/07 at 06:58 am »

This goes a long way to explain things!!!

I can see how the dense atmosphere would prevent research into airplanes and instead focus on airships.

I would also suggest that the planet contains vast quantites of an extremely lighter than air gas, much lighter than helium or hydrogen- also, if its completely inert there is no risk of explosions.

Another good addition to the planet would be preventing rocketry, as this lead to the decline of large battleships on earth, since large ships could be destroyed by relitivly small and cheap missiles. If rocketry had been impossible on earth there is no telling what size ships would have eventually become!
Likewise on Theia, the lack of rocketry would mean that all weapons would have to be ballistic and all large explosives would have to be dropped rather than launched.
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« Reply #4 on: 01/24/07 at 06:57 am »

Even on Earth, airships aren't a huge stretch. WWI-era Zeppelins could probably carry at least a few light tanks. Take away fighters and rockets and it's mostly a matter of scaling things up.

Argon is used in some fire suppression systems since it insulates heat well, so maybe it has the effect of slowing the spread of fires although the part that's already on fire is pretty much toast. This might also make combustion more difficult, explaining why small aircraft have not been economically viable.
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« Reply #5 on: 01/25/07 at 04:11 pm »

This goes a long way to explain things!!!

I can see how the dense atmosphere would prevent research into airplanes and instead focus on airships.

I would also suggest that the planet contains vast quantites of an extremely lighter than air gas, much lighter than helium or hydrogen- also, if its completely inert there is no risk of explosions.

Another good addition to the planet would be preventing rocketry, as this lead to the decline of large battleships on earth, since large ships could be destroyed by relitivly small and cheap missiles. If rocketry had been impossible on earth there is no telling what size ships would have eventually become!
Likewise on Theia, the lack of rocketry would mean that all weapons would have to be ballistic and all large explosives would have to be dropped rather than launched.

Rocketry only took off after advances in computers could allow precision.  Before that, battleships grew very large.  Thats the state the Iron Grip universe is at now. 
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« Reply #6 on: 02/06/07 at 12:35 am »

Really, the decline of battleships came due to the vulnerability of said warships to aerial bombing, and had very little to do with rockets. The development of proximity fuses for AA guns partially helped the problem which is why the US Battleships of WWII fared so well, but it was figured in the end that aircraft carriers could simply do more damage. The dense atmosphere would make aircraft slower, and therefore easier to hit, as well as shorter ranged. So, while there will be carriers in IG, battleships will still play a role for decades to come.

Also, for the planetary debate, a new page on the Iron Grip website! http://www.isotx.com/index.php?topic=3030
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« Reply #7 on: 02/06/07 at 08:11 am »

I think defining a planet where Iron Grip takes place is a very modern approach. It could be seen in many recent fiction, and many settings try to take a more precise and scientific approach to their universes.
It could backfire though, as the suspension of disbelief kind of fails when you call the planet Theia (not saying it's a bad name), add an alien sky and say it's all something a little different than the things we know from Earth... some people will love it, some will hate it.
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« Reply #8 on: 02/06/07 at 08:36 am »

I can't wait for the Tesla inspired technology to come soon!!! :-p
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« Reply #9 on: 02/06/07 at 12:23 pm »

hehe, some very good points. Though defining the scientific background of certain planets opens up new debates as to how certain technology works, and gets people more involved in that thinking process.
Its thin ice indeed, since it easily makes things futuristic, but we're not putting any focus on the planet, but more so on the history, battles and current map.
If we were to put up planet-images of Theia, it would be something else. Right now there's 1 article explaining the world and its environment.
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« Reply #10 on: 02/06/07 at 01:05 pm »

Just to warn everyone in advance (iI know this process tends to wander in these lands): do not consider SF... or a fantastic explanation.
What has been said up to date about Theia should be more than enough :-}... I wish every team developing a setting had Mandarax and his comprehensive visions of Theia!!!
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« Reply #11 on: 02/06/07 at 07:57 pm »

Heheh, I'm going to be expanding the Theia page more over time, but the additions are mostly going to be descriptions of how the "IG Universe" behaves in regards to the planet, rather than going off and describing the location of major tectonic plates etc Tongue Expect stories about early flight attempts, heavy industrial centers, etc etc.
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« Reply #12 on: 02/07/07 at 02:39 pm »

What do you think are other specifics of Theia?

Does the denser atmosphere allow for human life in higher attitudes?

What about the tide?

What about some special materials and substances?

What about radiation?

just curious, because I really like where this is going:-]
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« Reply #13 on: 07/03/07 at 03:29 pm »

I like the dense atmosphere concept. It opens the way for more Steampunk tech, as smaller airships can have steam engines, similar to trains, that use the heat to fill the balloons and the steam to run the propellers. There are some neat things that can be done with compressed steam, as it takes less energy to reheat, but I don't know much about its air displacement/weight.

Biplanes could be sustainable in the air over long distances, if a little slow, and gliders could fly for significantly longer, and you could open a parachute closer to the ground, as the the dense air should decelerate you more quickly.

There's a possibility of wind being fierce near the surface, but being very clear in the sky, as the waves in the oceans would still displace air, and the denser air would have more "umph* to it. Maybe opening up the possibility of more prevalent sail driven land vehicles.
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« Reply #14 on: 07/04/07 at 03:08 am »

That would indeed be an interesting concept, though land-sail ships are very risky i think; if you look at those beach carts with surf-sails on them, they topple all the time and have to ride on flat terrain to minimize this.
We would use it for long open tundra's or something.
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